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on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what he passed in massachusetts as an example of a bipartisan compromise and a model for the whole country at the state level. >> we've seen this model work really well. in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. entirely on a partisan basis instead of bringing america together and having a discussion at this important topic, you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid thought something was the best answer and drove it thr
on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people burks it's just not the case. look, i got five boys, i'm used to people saying something that's not always true. >> health care, romney was on offense, touting what...
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he wants to give tax cuts to people over to -- 250. repeal the estate tax and he said he also wants to increase spending for the defense industry. so i don't -- it's right there. this is what he has been running on. he says this will spark economic revival. >> so we don't know is what the president will run on. lou: we do know. he has to run on his record. what he has done is not deliver on cutting the deficit. what he has done is create over $5 trillion in deficits. and a debt of $16 trillion in total. >> see him run his record. that is what he has done. lou: i want to understand something here. is there some way he doesn't run on his record? i'm sorry. >> for the last 20 muncie has been running and his record. lou: i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about right now. governor romney put him on his record, and that was his signature achievement. >> i promise you, what they will do, they're going to fire ever nuclear bomb they have. lou: had dirty. is that what you're saying? >> at the end of the day, the fact that the man stood on
he wants to give tax cuts to people over to -- 250. repeal the estate tax and he said he also wants to increase spending for the defense industry. so i don't -- it's right there. this is what he has been running on. he says this will spark economic revival. >> so we don't know is what the president will run on. lou: we do know. he has to run on his record. what he has done is not deliver on cutting the deficit. what he has done is create over $5 trillion in deficits. and a debt of $16...
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the tax plan he described is the tax plan i was asked to support i would say absolutely not. >> he's been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> reporter: the theme of the debate for president obama appeared to be romney's planning lacked specifics. >> the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? >> reporter: mitt romney spent most of the night attacking the president's record. >> you said you would cut the deficit in half. it's four years later. >> reporter: romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change. >> any time a challenger stands on the stage with a president in the first debate they tend to get some bounce after that. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: a poll shows romney was the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people say ro
the tax plan he described is the tax plan i was asked to support i would say absolutely not. >> he's been running on this tax plan, and now five weeks before the election he's saying that his big bold idea is never mind. >> reporter: the theme of the debate for president obama appeared to be romney's planning lacked specifics. >> the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they are too good? >> reporter: mitt romney spent most of...
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addressing romney's tax plan, obama said romney's effort to cut taxes for the wealthy would be to the gutting of essential government programs. box for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan. five weeks before the election, now he is saying his big, bold idea is, "never mind." the fact is, if you are lowering the rates the way you described, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it is math. >> mitt romney challenged obama's assertion that his tax plan would cost the country $five trillion in revenue, the knowledge to cut spending on government programs will drastically increasing funding for the military. in a jab that quickly exploded on twitter car romney told moderator jim lehrer he would cut funds to employer pbs, despite his love for certain sesame street character. >> i am sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. i like you, too, but i am not one keep spending money on things to borrow money from
addressing romney's tax plan, obama said romney's effort to cut taxes for the wealthy would be to the gutting of essential government programs. box for 18 months he has been running on this tax plan. five weeks before the election, now he is saying his big, bold idea is, "never mind." the fact is, if you are lowering the rates the way you described, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high-income individuals to avoid...
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his tax cut wouldn't be anywhere near that size. >> so you're disputing the size of the tax cut? or are you disputing also how he's going to pay for it? >> we're disputing the size. >> erin, he has campaigned on lowering tax cuts by 20% for everybody, including those in the top 1%. that was one of the main selling points in the republican primary. >> so you're saying if you lower them by 20% you get a $5 trillion tab, right? >> it's a $5 trillion tab. >> but when he closes deductions he won't be anywhere near $5 trillion. that's our analysis. >> well with, okay, stipulated, it won't be near $5 trillion, but it's also not going to be the sum of $5 trillion in the loopholes that he's going to close. it is going to cost someone and it's going to cost the middle class. independent economists have taken a look at this. there aren't enough deductions for those at the top to account for the number of tax cuts that they get because of mitt romney's policies. you have to raise taxes on the middle class, as bill clinton says, it's simple math. >> they'll say, though, that you can do that.
his tax cut wouldn't be anywhere near that size. >> so you're disputing the size of the tax cut? or are you disputing also how he's going to pay for it? >> we're disputing the size. >> erin, he has campaigned on lowering tax cuts by 20% for everybody, including those in the top 1%. that was one of the main selling points in the republican primary. >> so you're saying if you lower them by 20% you get a $5 trillion tab, right? >> it's a $5 trillion tab. >> but...
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tax reform is hard. the tax code will be00 years old less year and we have had less than a handful of comprehensive reforms as a going-in proposition, it's hard to do. >> i have sympathy for what doug said as well. however here's the thing i watched the debate with a bunch of students out of notre dame university and there was a ton of head scratching going on. i want to quote some of the things the governor said. >> brown: it's a good school so there should be smart students. >> he said "i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans. i will not reduce the taxes paid by high income americans." now this is a guy who's going around saying i'm going to have a very large tax cut. >> brown: what does that mean, do you think there? >> what it means is that mitt romney makes a real distinction between cuts in tax rates and cuts in tax liability cuts in what you have to pay the i.r.s. what he's saying is to the wealthy folks we'll cut your rates but raise your deductions so your taxes will be the sam
tax reform is hard. the tax code will be00 years old less year and we have had less than a handful of comprehensive reforms as a going-in proposition, it's hard to do. >> i have sympathy for what doug said as well. however here's the thing i watched the debate with a bunch of students out of notre dame university and there was a ton of head scratching going on. i want to quote some of the things the governor said. >> brown: it's a good school so there should be smart students....
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he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and permanently repeal the estate tax. the nonpartisan tax policy center concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said again tonight that his plan would be paid for, but to pay for those cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax code and get rid of some tax deductions, he said, and credits, but he's repeatedly refused to say which deductions he would get rid of saying that he would work with congress to make those decisions. also tonight president obama said his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion. >> we all know that we've got to do more, and so i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. it's on a website. you can look at all the numbers, what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. >> reporter: that estimate comes from the left-leaning center on budget and policy priorities. $3.8 trillion, to be exact, over ten years. the president is counting money saved by letting the bush tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year, but he's a
he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and permanently repeal the estate tax. the nonpartisan tax policy center concluded that mitt romney's tax plan would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said again tonight that his plan would be paid for, but to pay for those cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax code and get rid of some tax deductions, he said, and credits, but he's repeatedly refused to say which deductions he would get rid of saying that he would work with...
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to do to the tax code. he has a tax cut that would cost $5 trillion. that part is true. the president is right about that. romney said from the very beginning, he's consistent so nothing he said last night was new. it's important to put that clearly. he's always said he will pay for that tax cut. that tax cut will not be passed the way it is currently in. he will work with congress to find offsets. romney has not named any offsets or shown how to pay for it, and it's not clear that he can, given the size of it and given his promise of not letting it become a tax cut for the rich. that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor
to do to the tax code. he has a tax cut that would cost $5 trillion. that part is true. the president is right about that. romney said from the very beginning, he's consistent so nothing he said last night was new. it's important to put that clearly. he's always said he will pay for that tax cut. that tax cut will not be passed the way it is currently in. he will work with congress to find offsets. romney has not named any offsets or shown how to pay for it, and it's not clear that he can,...
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been saying a lot of things about his proposals that just aren't true-- like that he's going to raise taxes on the middle-class. he says that will end at tonight's debate. his aides say he'll try to prosecute the case on the economy against the president, scott, saying point blank "this economy cannot afford four more years of president obama." >> pelley: thanks, jan, also covering the debate is our cbs news political director john dickerson. john, what are the pitfalls that are facing the candidates possibly? >> for governor romney, he's got two jobs: one is to say why the president has failed and the second is to sell himself. to do that job, he has to be aggressive, kind of in the president's face. for the second job he has to offer something people find attractive so the challenge for him is getting the mix right. the challenge for the president is staying on script, talking about how he has been working for the middle-class and not getting knocked off by governor romney who he doesn't have a great deal of personal regard for. so he has to not look defensive. >> pelley: john, thank you
been saying a lot of things about his proposals that just aren't true-- like that he's going to raise taxes on the middle-class. he says that will end at tonight's debate. his aides say he'll try to prosecute the case on the economy against the president, scott, saying point blank "this economy cannot afford four more years of president obama." >> pelley: thanks, jan, also covering the debate is our cbs news political director john dickerson. john, what are the pitfalls that are...
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we i pay our taxes online. we do an array of important security yet we don't utilize the same tools. the most important thing for our democracy. to me it seems on one hand we have to get people civically involved or engaged. that's bread and butter. been out other hand we have use and exercise the tools that are available to us. we talk about also social media but the basic thing such as the internet which something near 70% of americans use that as medium to get people to vote. i ashower you a younger person will feel more inclined than taking off of school or work to go to a polling center. that's me. a fairly do able way to fix it. >> i think it's a great point. a great point. >> moderator: we're running out of time. we can do two more questions. all right. [inaudible conversations] how about this lady here. two ladies how about right there? >> i actually had a question -- sorry. i'm a elizabeth or so more at georgetown. i had a question about diversity and the mayors spoke how they were trying to increase w
we i pay our taxes online. we do an array of important security yet we don't utilize the same tools. the most important thing for our democracy. to me it seems on one hand we have to get people civically involved or engaged. that's bread and butter. been out other hand we have use and exercise the tools that are available to us. we talk about also social media but the basic thing such as the internet which something near 70% of americans use that as medium to get people to vote. i ashower you a...
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the feds have just charged more than 90 people with trying to steal our tax dollars. the suspects are accused of taking part in medicare schemes that submitted nearly $430 million in fraudulent billing. doctors and nurses among the suspects. the assistant attorney general lanny brewer explained how one scheme in houston allegedly took advantage of mental patients. >> these defendants have allegedly bribed medicare beneficiaries with cigarettes, food and coupons instead of giving these beneficiaries real medicare care, hospital owners and operators allegedly plunked them in front of the television and billioned medicare on their behalf. >> the feds made similar accusations against suspects in a total of seven cities, all across the united states. well, fbi agents today finally inspected the scene in libya where militants three weeks ago killed the u.s. ambassador and three other americans. according to the fbi, agents visited the u.s. consulate in benghazi and left a short time later. the associated press reports the agents and several dozen u.s. special operations for
the feds have just charged more than 90 people with trying to steal our tax dollars. the suspects are accused of taking part in medicare schemes that submitted nearly $430 million in fraudulent billing. doctors and nurses among the suspects. the assistant attorney general lanny brewer explained how one scheme in houston allegedly took advantage of mental patients. >> these defendants have allegedly bribed medicare beneficiaries with cigarettes, food and coupons instead of giving these...
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i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him on substance. i think he got the better of the exchange regarding the facts and the policy. but for the obama campaign to put the spokesman on and i'm sure she is doing her best and not to admit he had a bad night and to say we ought to do fact check when the fact checkers have rated obama's ads with four pinocchios. the way to do this is to say look at governor romney. smile, be gracious. don't look down and take notes while a man is talking to you. it's as simple as admitting he had a bad night. but on policy and substance i'm still voting for him. i know she doesn't believe she was sayin
i will not raise tax on middle income families. i'll lower taxes on middle income families. martha: by our count president obama mentioned the middle class 19 times, clearly a focus of every presidential election. let's talk about this. lanny davis joins me now. and jonah goldberg is the editor at large for the national review. welcome, jonah. lanny, you listened to all that. what do you think? >> i'm not very happy with the president's performance. i think he did poorly. i agree with him...
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mitt romney said he would the no raise taxes to pay for his tax cuts. he said he was going to cut spending. even said that there would be a grade. he will not borrow money to pay for a program. he said he would cut pbs and big bird. he was very specific about what he would do. in certain places though romney questioned obama and obama just looked at him, when obama said basically you get a tax cut or a tax deduction for moving jobs overseas. mitt romney said i've been in business last 25 years, i don't know what you're talking about. basically obama was vague last night. but romney came with specifics. jon: cory, you described the debate as being sort of very specific and bordering on wonky but isn't that what people are looking for right now? aren't they looking for specifics and numbers and ideas here? >> i think you're absolutely right about that. always interesting to me tv commentators and others complain how debates and political discourse is boring and turning american people off whether this is exactly the time they should pay close attention. w
mitt romney said he would the no raise taxes to pay for his tax cuts. he said he was going to cut spending. even said that there would be a grade. he will not borrow money to pay for a program. he said he would cut pbs and big bird. he was very specific about what he would do. in certain places though romney questioned obama and obama just looked at him, when obama said basically you get a tax cut or a tax deduction for moving jobs overseas. mitt romney said i've been in business last 25 years,...
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to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened in 1986, the last time the congress and the president reagan at the time undertook major tax reform. the president didn't come forward with a plan, take it or leave it plan that he presented to the congress. instead, he articulated some broad principles that would guide him in his negotiations with congressional leaders and those led to major tax reform. that created a major economic expansion in this country. those are the same principles that governor romney would follow, if he's elected as president. >> so, he's not going to spell
to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened...
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i mean, if you cut people's taxes, great. who doesn't want that? on the other hand, if you're going to give them -- take away that same money by changing out the loopholes, you end up with the same thing. why is that going to provide more jobs than what we're dealing with today? nobody's going to have extra money. >> you guys. >> i like the romney-created guiding principles that both democrats and republicans could participate in the decision and implementation of the program. >> i think romney has a very specific plan. he's focused on five specific things, but most of it is jobs. he's all about getting people back to work, raising more revenues because of jobs, and, therefore, not having to raise taxes like he'd have to. >> it would appear to be about leadership and being able to bring people together. not in dividing people. >> not issue, leadership. that's an attribute. >> it is. but it translate into the individual issues. you have to be able to bring divergent opinions together and craft an outcome. we haven't seen that for four years. >> the
i mean, if you cut people's taxes, great. who doesn't want that? on the other hand, if you're going to give them -- take away that same money by changing out the loopholes, you end up with the same thing. why is that going to provide more jobs than what we're dealing with today? nobody's going to have extra money. >> you guys. >> i like the romney-created guiding principles that both democrats and republicans could participate in the decision and implementation of the program....
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they cut taxes 19 times. they balanced the budget and got a rainy day fund and upgraded their credit rating in massachusetts. they brought unemployment down to 5.7%. and that's in sharp contrast. we've had our national credit rating downgraded as a result of president obama's policies. he's not worked across the aisle and we've had unemployment go up as a result of his policies. >> gretchen: although president obama's biggest critique of your candidate is that there simply are not enough details in his plan. so how do you respond to that criticism? >> you heard a lot of details from governor romney last night. in fact, he's been going across the country talking about the romney plan for a stronger middle class and talking about the details. i think people saw that last night. i think what they did not see from president obama was an agenda for a second term should he be reelected. but we know that it would be more of the same. if you like the last four years, you would love the next four years under president
they cut taxes 19 times. they balanced the budget and got a rainy day fund and upgraded their credit rating in massachusetts. they brought unemployment down to 5.7%. and that's in sharp contrast. we've had our national credit rating downgraded as a result of president obama's policies. he's not worked across the aisle and we've had unemployment go up as a result of his policies. >> gretchen: although president obama's biggest critique of your candidate is that there simply are not enough...